Comments on: 1st/2nd Avenue Plan Offers Double Benefit: Faster Buses, Safer Cycling and Walking http://blog.tstc.org/2010/01/21/1st2nd-avenue-plan-offers-double-benefit-faster-buses-safer-cycling-and-walking/ News and opinion from the Tri-State Transportation Campaign Sat, 11 Feb 2012 20:36:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Psychtrist in Houston http://blog.tstc.org/2010/01/21/1st2nd-avenue-plan-offers-double-benefit-faster-buses-safer-cycling-and-walking/comment-page-1/#comment-58081 Psychtrist in Houston Sun, 04 Dec 2011 07:03:30 +0000 http://blog.tstc.org/?p=8353#comment-58081 Great website. A lot of helpful info here. I am sending it to some friends ans also sharing in delicious. And certainly, thank you on your effort! Great website. A lot of helpful info here. I am sending it to some friends ans also sharing in delicious. And certainly, thank you on your effort!

]]> By: bob previdi http://blog.tstc.org/2010/01/21/1st2nd-avenue-plan-offers-double-benefit-faster-buses-safer-cycling-and-walking/comment-page-1/#comment-11105 bob previdi Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:08:15 +0000 http://blog.tstc.org/?p=8353#comment-11105 In NYC, every second, every minute counts. And the whole ideas is to give priority to the buses, as they carry a significant number of passengers. This effort is a first step to what I hope will be many more steps in alocating the street space in a more balenced way - allowing people, not necessarily cars, to move more efficently and offer true choices like biking. And stats can make anything look bigger or smaller: 10 to 8 minutes saves 17 hours a year 15 to 11.5 minutes saves 30 hours a year 20 to 15 minutes saves 43 hours a year 30 to 22.5 minutes saves 65 hours a year. So do you want to save 2+ days a year on your commute? Minutes may not seem to be a lot, but In NYC, every second, every minute counts. And the whole ideas is to give priority to the buses, as they carry a significant number of passengers.
This effort is a first step to what I hope will be many more steps in alocating the street space in a more balenced way – allowing people, not necessarily cars, to move more efficently and offer true choices like biking.
And stats can make anything look bigger or smaller:
10 to 8 minutes saves 17 hours a year
15 to 11.5 minutes saves 30 hours a year
20 to 15 minutes saves 43 hours a year
30 to 22.5 minutes saves 65 hours a year.
So do you want to save 2+ days a year on your commute?

Minutes may not seem to be a lot, but

]]> By: Rebel http://blog.tstc.org/2010/01/21/1st2nd-avenue-plan-offers-double-benefit-faster-buses-safer-cycling-and-walking/comment-page-1/#comment-3235 Rebel Sat, 23 Jan 2010 17:26:09 +0000 http://blog.tstc.org/?p=8353#comment-3235 25% increase in travel time is really not a lot unless you are traveling a significant distance. Assuming the 25% quicker service is even true. 10 minute trips become 8 minute trips. 15 minute trips about 11.5 minute trips 20 minute trips become 15 minute trips. 30 minute trips become 22.5 minute trips. All of those are meh. 1 hour becoming a 45 minute trip is cool, but still not spectacular. You really have to appreciate the green aspect of this whole deal to really like. Its not that fast, and thats assuming that their projections aren't ambitious, which they probably are. However, If they can find a way to have these buses move up and down at normal speeds during bumper to bumper traffic, those are where the real speed gains can be achieved and where the customers can get the most out of the service. 25% increase in travel time is really not a lot unless you are traveling a significant distance. Assuming the 25% quicker service is even true.

10 minute trips become 8 minute trips.
15 minute trips about 11.5 minute trips
20 minute trips become 15 minute trips.
30 minute trips become 22.5 minute trips.

All of those are meh.
1 hour becoming a 45 minute trip is cool, but still not spectacular.

You really have to appreciate the green aspect of this whole deal to really like. Its not that fast, and thats assuming that their projections aren’t ambitious, which they probably are.

However, If they can find a way to have these buses move up and down at normal speeds during bumper to bumper traffic, those are where the real speed gains can be achieved and where the customers can get the most out of the service.

]]> By: Rob B. http://blog.tstc.org/2010/01/21/1st2nd-avenue-plan-offers-double-benefit-faster-buses-safer-cycling-and-walking/comment-page-1/#comment-3220 Rob B. Fri, 22 Jan 2010 21:10:59 +0000 http://blog.tstc.org/?p=8353#comment-3220 I know plenty of apartment seekers who never look east of 3rd Avenue because of the lack of fast transit. This new plan would enhance the value of this real estate. I know plenty of apartment seekers who never look east of 3rd Avenue because of the lack of fast transit. This new plan would enhance the value of this real estate.

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