Comments on: Gov. Rell Keeps Transit Riders on the Hook for Fare Hikes http://blog.tstc.org/2009/09/28/gov-rell-keeps-transit-riders-on-the-hook-for-fare-hikes/ News and opinion from the Tri-State Transportation Campaign Fri, 19 Mar 2010 19:37:44 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Streetsblog San Francisco » Carlyle Group’s New Infrastructure Public-Private Partnership: Donuts http://blog.tstc.org/2009/09/28/gov-rell-keeps-transit-riders-on-the-hook-for-fare-hikes/comment-page-1/#comment-2189 Streetsblog San Francisco » Carlyle Group’s New Infrastructure Public-Private Partnership: Donuts Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:45:25 +0000 http://blog.tstc.org/?p=6760#comment-2189 [...] "an unprecedented commitment to ... meeting the needs of the traveling public" recently vetoed legislation that would have eliminated the need for significant transit fare [...] [...] "an unprecedented commitment to … meeting the needs of the traveling public" recently vetoed legislation that would have eliminated the need for significant transit fare [...]

]]> By: Streetsblog Capitol Hill » Carlyle Group’s New Infrastructure Public-Private Partnership: Donuts http://blog.tstc.org/2009/09/28/gov-rell-keeps-transit-riders-on-the-hook-for-fare-hikes/comment-page-1/#comment-2188 Streetsblog Capitol Hill » Carlyle Group’s New Infrastructure Public-Private Partnership: Donuts Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:46:30 +0000 http://blog.tstc.org/?p=6760#comment-2188 [...] "an unprecedented commitment to ... meeting the needs of the traveling public" recently vetoed legislation that would have eliminated the need for significant transit fare [...] [...] "an unprecedented commitment to … meeting the needs of the traveling public" recently vetoed legislation that would have eliminated the need for significant transit fare [...]

]]> By: Transit Funding Reinstated in CT; Battle on Long Island Continues | Mobilizing the Region http://blog.tstc.org/2009/09/28/gov-rell-keeps-transit-riders-on-the-hook-for-fare-hikes/comment-page-1/#comment-1962 Transit Funding Reinstated in CT; Battle on Long Island Continues | Mobilizing the Region Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:27:08 +0000 http://blog.tstc.org/?p=6760#comment-1962 [...] has documented at length the bus and rail fare hike fights in Connecticut as well as the fight to stave off cuts in Nassau County’s contribution to LI Bus over the [...] [...] has documented at length the bus and rail fare hike fights in Connecticut as well as the fight to stave off cuts in Nassau County’s contribution to LI Bus over the [...]

]]> By: Clark Morris http://blog.tstc.org/2009/09/28/gov-rell-keeps-transit-riders-on-the-hook-for-fare-hikes/comment-page-1/#comment-1794 Clark Morris Sat, 03 Oct 2009 22:02:33 +0000 http://blog.tstc.org/?p=6760#comment-1794 What is being done to reduce the cost of providing transit? How does the MTA farebox recovery compare with the suburban service of the SBB out of Zurich or the various providers in other major European cities? Do FRA equipment rules make North American operations less cost effective and slower (in particular the body strength rules that add weight to our cars)? Are there better ways of staffing and collecting fares? Would scheduling for and encouraging more suburb/satellite city to suburb/satellite city travel help? How about truly integrating bus and rail both fare and schedule wise? What is being done to reduce the cost of providing transit? How does the MTA farebox recovery compare with the suburban service of the SBB out of Zurich or the various providers in other major European cities? Do FRA equipment rules make North American operations less cost effective and slower (in particular the body strength rules that add weight to our cars)? Are there better ways of staffing and collecting fares? Would scheduling for and encouraging more suburb/satellite city to suburb/satellite city travel help? How about truly integrating bus and rail both fare and schedule wise?

]]> By: Lukas Herbert http://blog.tstc.org/2009/09/28/gov-rell-keeps-transit-riders-on-the-hook-for-fare-hikes/comment-page-1/#comment-1751 Lukas Herbert Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:26:18 +0000 http://blog.tstc.org/?p=6760#comment-1751 To put CT rail fares in perspective, if my wife and I decide to visit friends in Stratford, CT, depending on the day, it may actually be more cost effective to rent a car, fill it with gas and drive it there than it would be for both of us to take Metro North to Stratford round-trip from NYC. While transit fares in NY (and now CT) have gone up in recent years, rental prices at Enterprise Rent-A-Car have stayed flat...and even gone down in certain situations. It used to be that higher transit fares or inconvenient service kept people in their cars. Now the situation may become one where higher transit fares and less transit service push non-car owning transit riders into rental cars (for discretionary trips) because rental cars are a better value. I don't think this is the mobility model that anybody had intended. To put CT rail fares in perspective, if my wife and I decide to visit friends in Stratford, CT, depending on the day, it may actually be more cost effective to rent a car, fill it with gas and drive it there than it would be for both of us to take Metro North to Stratford round-trip from NYC. While transit fares in NY (and now CT) have gone up in recent years, rental prices at Enterprise Rent-A-Car have stayed flat…and even gone down in certain situations.

It used to be that higher transit fares or inconvenient service kept people in their cars. Now the situation may become one where higher transit fares and less transit service push non-car owning transit riders into rental cars (for discretionary trips) because rental cars are a better value. I don’t think this is the mobility model that anybody had intended.

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