Comments on: Long Studied, Second Lincoln Tunnel Bus Lane Inches Closer to Completion http://blog.tstc.org/2008/06/02/here-we-go-again2nd-bus-lane-in-lincoln-tunnel/ News and opinion from the Tri-State Transportation Campaign Wed, 17 Mar 2010 18:14:43 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Jackie Caswell http://blog.tstc.org/2008/06/02/here-we-go-again2nd-bus-lane-in-lincoln-tunnel/comment-page-1/#comment-2539 Jackie Caswell Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:46:52 +0000 http://mobilizingtheregion.wordpress.com/?p=334#comment-2539 It could be that some new thinking is needed to at least combat the lengthy delays entering the tunnels and interstates. Could it be possible or am I completely insane that all of the tolls and toll roads you have could be taxed to the residents of each state (since no noticeable improvements to the roadways have taken place in the last several years including potholes and striping). Look at all the jobs that could be eliminated (an Obama requirement). The people who most use these roads would actually pay for them with out having to wait in line for a couple of hours. The fuel saved and the emissions would go way down and it would be a win win situation for all concerned. For the life of me I cannot understand or comprehend how the mentality of the people in the Northeast can blow their horns the second a red light turns green and yet wait hours to pay a small toll to get through a tunnel they have paid for 100 times over. Imbelcils all, including the ones to pay and the ones who set it up. It could be that some new thinking is needed to at least combat the lengthy delays entering the tunnels and interstates. Could it be possible or am I completely insane that all of the tolls and toll roads you have could be taxed to the residents of each state (since no noticeable improvements to the roadways have taken place in the last several years including potholes and striping). Look at all the jobs that could be eliminated (an Obama requirement). The people who most use these roads would actually pay for them with out having to wait in line for a couple of hours. The fuel saved and the emissions would go way down and it would be a win win situation for all concerned. For the life of me I cannot understand or comprehend how the mentality of the people in the Northeast can blow their horns the second a red light turns green and yet wait hours to pay a small toll to get through a tunnel they have paid for 100 times over. Imbelcils all, including the ones to pay and the ones who set it up.

]]> By: Streetsblog » TSTC to Port Authority: Bus Service Across Hudson Needs to Improve, Fast http://blog.tstc.org/2008/06/02/here-we-go-again2nd-bus-lane-in-lincoln-tunnel/comment-page-1/#comment-471 Streetsblog » TSTC to Port Authority: Bus Service Across Hudson Needs to Improve, Fast Thu, 14 May 2009 18:14:56 +0000 http://mobilizingtheregion.wordpress.com/?p=334#comment-471 [...] a westbound Lincoln Tunnel XBL during the evening rush and moving full-speed ahead with plans for a new high occupancy/toll lane for the morning commute (which has been stalled in the study phase for way too long). The report [...] [...] a westbound Lincoln Tunnel XBL during the evening rush and moving full-speed ahead with plans for a new high occupancy/toll lane for the morning commute (which has been stalled in the study phase for way too long). The report [...]

]]> By: New Goethals Bridge To Include Bus/Carpool Lanes « Mobilizing the Region http://blog.tstc.org/2008/06/02/here-we-go-again2nd-bus-lane-in-lincoln-tunnel/comment-page-1/#comment-463 New Goethals Bridge To Include Bus/Carpool Lanes « Mobilizing the Region Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:58:33 +0000 http://mobilizingtheregion.wordpress.com/?p=334#comment-463 [...] which will improve bus commutes and help accommodate future growth — others include an additional Lincoln Tunnel bus lane and expansions of the PA Bus Terminal and George Washington Bridge Bus [...] [...] which will improve bus commutes and help accommodate future growth — others include an additional Lincoln Tunnel bus lane and expansions of the PA Bus Terminal and George Washington Bridge Bus [...]

]]> By: GW Bridge Station Renovations to Increase Bus Capacity By Half « Mobilizing the Region http://blog.tstc.org/2008/06/02/here-we-go-again2nd-bus-lane-in-lincoln-tunnel/comment-page-1/#comment-464 GW Bridge Station Renovations to Increase Bus Capacity By Half « Mobilizing the Region Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:37:14 +0000 http://mobilizingtheregion.wordpress.com/?p=334#comment-464 [...] also planning to expand bus capacity at the Port Authority Bus Terminal in Midtown Manhattan and to create another bus lane at the Lincoln Tunnel approach. A recent NY Times article looked at the excess of buses which idle [...] [...] also planning to expand bus capacity at the Port Authority Bus Terminal in Midtown Manhattan and to create another bus lane at the Lincoln Tunnel approach. A recent NY Times article looked at the excess of buses which idle [...]

]]> By: Streetsblog » TSTC Issues Lincoln Tunnel Emancipation Proclamation http://blog.tstc.org/2008/06/02/here-we-go-again2nd-bus-lane-in-lincoln-tunnel/comment-page-1/#comment-466 Streetsblog » TSTC Issues Lincoln Tunnel Emancipation Proclamation Wed, 17 Sep 2008 15:12:40 +0000 http://mobilizingtheregion.wordpress.com/?p=334#comment-466 [...] bus times by 15-20 minutes according to the Port Authority. This has prompted the Authority to study the creation of a bus/high occupancy toll (HOT) lane in the tunnel to alleviate gridlock on the bus priority [...] [...] bus times by 15-20 minutes according to the Port Authority. This has prompted the Authority to study the creation of a bus/high occupancy toll (HOT) lane in the tunnel to alleviate gridlock on the bus priority [...]

]]> By: Lincoln Tunnel Bus Lane Needed in Other Direction Too « Mobilizing the Region http://blog.tstc.org/2008/06/02/here-we-go-again2nd-bus-lane-in-lincoln-tunnel/comment-page-1/#comment-465 Lincoln Tunnel Bus Lane Needed in Other Direction Too « Mobilizing the Region Tue, 16 Sep 2008 19:50:44 +0000 http://mobilizingtheregion.wordpress.com/?p=334#comment-465 [...] bus times by 15-20 minutes according to the Port Authority. This has prompted the Authority to study the creation of a bus/high occupancy toll (HOT) lane in the tunnel to alleviate gridlock on the bus priority [...] [...] bus times by 15-20 minutes according to the Port Authority. This has prompted the Authority to study the creation of a bus/high occupancy toll (HOT) lane in the tunnel to alleviate gridlock on the bus priority [...]

]]> By: Plans for Bus Terminal Redesign Will Expand Bus Service « Mobilizing the Region http://blog.tstc.org/2008/06/02/here-we-go-again2nd-bus-lane-in-lincoln-tunnel/comment-page-1/#comment-467 Plans for Bus Terminal Redesign Will Expand Bus Service « Mobilizing the Region Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:48:10 +0000 http://mobilizingtheregion.wordpress.com/?p=334#comment-467 [...] bus and train networks which cross the Hudson have become increasingly congested. As MTR previously reported, the PA is also studying the addition of a high occupancy toll (HOT) lane in the Lincoln Tunnel as [...] [...] bus and train networks which cross the Hudson have become increasingly congested. As MTR previously reported, the PA is also studying the addition of a high occupancy toll (HOT) lane in the Lincoln Tunnel as [...]

]]> By: Red http://blog.tstc.org/2008/06/02/here-we-go-again2nd-bus-lane-in-lincoln-tunnel/comment-page-1/#comment-468 Red Thu, 05 Jun 2008 15:39:26 +0000 http://mobilizingtheregion.wordpress.com/?p=334#comment-468 I agree - my guess is that the lane is going to charge both SOVs and HOV-2s, with some pretty hefty tolls. I'm not sure how dire the bus lane overcrowding situation is at the moment; as bus traffic increases over time the HOT aspect would probably be phased out. I imagine they will be looking at the same sort of dynamic pricing technology used in Washington state, which would help ensure that things don't bog down: http://www.tollroadsnews.com/node/3520 I'm really not sure how they plan to deal with enforcement, but I'm not familiar with the Tunnel approach. I agree – my guess is that the lane is going to charge both SOVs and HOV-2s, with some pretty hefty tolls. I’m not sure how dire the bus lane overcrowding situation is at the moment; as bus traffic increases over time the HOT aspect would probably be phased out.

I imagine they will be looking at the same sort of dynamic pricing technology used in Washington state, which would help ensure that things don’t bog down: http://www.tollroadsnews.com/node/3520

I’m really not sure how they plan to deal with enforcement, but I’m not familiar with the Tunnel approach.

]]> By: Blasito http://blog.tstc.org/2008/06/02/here-we-go-again2nd-bus-lane-in-lincoln-tunnel/comment-page-1/#comment-469 Blasito Thu, 05 Jun 2008 04:27:48 +0000 http://mobilizingtheregion.wordpress.com/?p=334#comment-469 Good news overall, but I'm not sure I like the HOT/Bus lane idea. How much of a premium do they plan to charge? At some point it can easily become just as crowded as the rest of the tunnels. They should be studying the proposal to have a bus/light rail lane through the tunnel connecting the HBLRT to Manhattan. http://www.auto-free.org/lrt-linc.html Good news overall, but I’m not sure I like the HOT/Bus lane idea. How much of a premium do they plan to charge? At some point it can easily become just as crowded as the rest of the tunnels.

They should be studying the proposal to have a bus/light rail lane through the tunnel connecting the HBLRT to Manhattan.

http://www.auto-free.org/lrt-linc.html

]]> By: Streetsblog » Today’s Headline http://blog.tstc.org/2008/06/02/here-we-go-again2nd-bus-lane-in-lincoln-tunnel/comment-page-1/#comment-470 Streetsblog » Today’s Headline Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:03:46 +0000 http://mobilizingtheregion.wordpress.com/?p=334#comment-470 [...] Convicted of Manslaughter (News)New HOT/Bus Lane for Lincoln Tunnel One Step Closer to Reality (MTR)Market for Second-Hand SUVs Collapsing (WSJ)Cabbies Feeling Squeezed by Gas Prices (Post)Councilman [...] [...] Convicted of Manslaughter (News)New HOT/Bus Lane for Lincoln Tunnel One Step Closer to Reality (MTR)Market for Second-Hand SUVs Collapsing (WSJ)Cabbies Feeling Squeezed by Gas Prices (Post)Councilman [...]

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